What's your favorite?

[Mlle Bienvenu]

I think I like Deep Space Nine best... although I grew up on NextGen... I also like the original series (Spock, nuf said) I never really got to see Voyager enough to form an opinion...the Holodoc was cool though. And Enterprise... well ... I sort of liked it... but then lost track of it... is it still on anymore?

As for the Animated Series...I only saw a few episodes.... the animation wasn't all that great...and it seemed like they cut a lot out to fit it into a half hour timeslot.... but ... it was kind of a fun show from what I can tell.

[Lolua]

I have to vote TNG.... I too grew up on it, had the hugest crush on Westley Crusher, and wanted to be Lwaxana Troi. To this day, I'm not sure why. Maybe it was the tall quiet guy who carried her stuff everywhere. I loved Q and Data, and rooted for Deanna and Riker (who looked better without his beard).

Anyway... I watched DS9 and Voyager for a while. I think I stopped watching DS9 before Worf came on, and I didn't watch Voyager much after they recast Kes and screwed up Neelix. I agree that the Holodoc was cool, though he got a bit grating after a while.

Will you think less of me if I say I never knew there was an animated series?

I won't watch Enterprise unless forced. Scott Bakula scares me.

As for the original series, it says a lot about my feelings on it that my favorite episode (and the only one I've seen in its entirety) is "Trouble With Tribbles". *grumbles about Martian flat-cats*

[Mlle Bienvenu]

Lolua said:

I have to vote TNG.... I too grew up on it, had the hugest crush on Westley Crusher, and wanted to be Lwaxana Troi. To this day, I'm not sure why. Maybe it was the tall quiet guy who carried her stuff everywhere. I loved Q and Data, and rooted for Deanna and Riker (who looked better without his beard).

Wow...you mean, I'm not the only one who actually liked Wesley? Hehe...I think I might have been like that when I was a kid....LOL.... My favorite characters also were Q and Data and also Picard and Geordi...but I think it wa mainly because he was blind too LOL.... Yay for role models LOL

Anyway... I watched DS9 and Voyager for a while. I think I stopped watching DS9 before Worf came on, and I didn't watch Voyager much after they recast Kes and screwed up Neelix. I agree that the Holodoc was cool, though he got a bit grating after a while.

Will you think less of me if I say I never knew there was an animated series?

LOL....no not at all... I think it only ran for a season or so in the seventies....so...yeah...LOL

I won't watch Enterprise unless forced. Scott Bakula scares me.

LOL! I only saw the first two seasons...but yeah...he's a little too.... hmm..."Wheeeeeee! Space is funnnn! Ohh...what's that thing? Neat-o!" Not serious enough or something....LOL

As for the original series, it says a lot about my feelings on it that my favorite episode (and the only one I've seen in its entirety) is "Trouble With Tribbles". *grumbles about Martian flat-cats*

LOL...I liked that episode.....but yeah...it does show it's age.. and lack of budget.... but it's still fun sometimes....and.....it's got Spock! :-D LOL

[Big Brother]

I not only know there was an Animated series, I've seen it. Okay, I've seen like three episodes in re-runs on cable when I was like 12, but give me a break, it was before I was born, and hasn't been shown much since.

I also saw TOS only in reruns (again, since it was made before I was born), but have seen just about every episode at least once. Most were watched as a kid with my father, who when he was in college watched them in first-run primetime showings on a major network! He organized Trek viewing parties with his friends and everything. (For the record, this was not what made my father a geek. Being captain of the Chess team in high school made him a geek.) Some eps I've seen many many times. Some eps hold up remarkably well, some were incredibly cheesy. All in all, though, you gotta love Spock. The TOS-derived movies were pretty good. When I was in college, they showed a festival of the first four movies over two days on a big screen. When Star Trek: The Motion Picture was shown...I was one of only four people in the theater. One of the others was a fellow student known to his friends only as "Spock", who was infamous for occasionally showing up for class in a Superman costume. Unlike many people, I'm not just a fan of the even-numbered movies. My favorite is easily Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. As an Atheist, I get such a kick out of seeing Spock literally kill God with a photon torpedo.

I watched the first pilot ep of TNG with my family and a load of high expectations....that "Encounter at Farpoint" just could not meet. The next few episodes were similarly disappointing, so we stopped watching a few weeks later. A couple years after that, one of my friends in High School, Jonathan Gilana, persuaded me to give it another try. Whaddaya know, first season might have sucked, but it got really good shortly after that! This was a pattern that would hold for each of the next several series: Crappy beginning, then improvement once the writers and actors got a good feel for the characters and got on with the plot.

I watched DS9's pilot, and enjoyed it immensely, much better than "Encounter at Farpoint". But, once again, aside from a few notable exceptions, the actual episodes of the first season blew chunks. And, once more, I lost interest. Then, in college, a friend of mine invited me to watch that week's DS9 with him and the other members of Star Trek Club. This was an odd sort of Star Trek Club, since it was a sub-group of the Judson Baptist Fellowship. That's because the minister in charge, the Reverend Janice Hazekamp, was an odd sort of Baptist preacher: she's the only clergyperson I know personally who has actually officiated at a lesbian wedding ceremony. With some good friends to help get me caught up on the plot (which, as usual, got going just as I lost interest and stopped watching), I got back into things with a vengeance. For three years I watched every episode of DS9 (and Voyager when that started soon after I joined) with the Star Trek Club. DS9 kicked butt once its plot got going, because they stole so many good ideas from Babylon 5.

Quick plug: My long-abandoned partially-completed B5/DS9 comparison website can be found at:
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Enjoy.

Voyager I watched from the beginning though its third or so season. And it never rose above mediocrity. Even when it had what appeared to be a good episode, such as "The Year of Hell", it hit the freakin' reset button at the end of the episode and nothing was changed. Nothing EVER FREAKING CHANGED! They never seemed to get any closer to home, they never took any damage they couldn't easily fix...and when cremen left or new crewmembers were picked up, it wasn't due to plot considerations, it was because Jennifer Lien decided to seitch to voice-over work in cartoons and Brannon Braga wanted to give his new girlfriend, Jeri Ryan, a job. Even when they killed off Harry Kim, the single best thing they ever did, they brought in a new and identical Harry Kim from an Alternate Universe THE SAME DARN EPISODE! Ugh! And, of course, never mentioned it again. Once in a while they did something sorta cool, like the Species 8472 subplot, but once that miniseries worth of eps was over...nothing was changed, and nothing mattered. So Voyager sucked.

Enterprise, I was determined to give a chance. I not only watched every episode in the first season, I taped them and watched them multiple times. In a reversal of previous Trek series, Enterprise had a great pilot, and several good episodes right off the bat. "Strange New World", "Civilization", "Fight or Flight", even "Silent Enemy" were all quite good. And, with the "Temporal Cold War", there was even promise of a continuing overall storyline and the resultant hope that something might eventually happen that was actuallhy important.

Nope.

By bringing in Time Travel and the idea that history can be altered right off the bat, instead of introducing a bold new plot line and stories that matter, they ensured that they always had an even bigger reset button than even Voyager had ever dreamed of. Now entire multiple-episode plot lines can be reset and retroactively made to have happened at all! Nothing matters, because anything can be fixed even after it already happened! For a while there, it seemed like every third epiosde followed the same plot: We find the Enterprise several years after the other episodes that season, and one or more crewmembers are dead or horribly injured. But we find some time-travel-related way to make sure this entire timeline never happened! And everything is exactly like it used to be! This is just a rehash of the horrible mistkae that Voyager made with "The Year of Hell": Show us something important happening, then make sure it never really happened at all.

And so now I no longer watch Enterprise. I catch it every now and then in the vain hope that it will improve. They seem to have decided to have more multi-episode plots than other series, but are still cursed with Brannon Braga, who can't write worth crap. So even when something big happens, it doesn't happen very coherently. What a waste of some of the best SFX in the history of TV.

[Mlle Bienvenu]

Big said:

I not only know there was an Animated series, I've seen it. Okay, I've seen like three episodes in re-runs on cable when I was like 12, but give me a break, it was before I was born, and hasn't been shown much since.

Yeah, that's how I've seen it as well, I'm not old enough to have seen the original airings

I also saw TOS only in reruns (again, since it was made before I was born), but have seen just about every episode at least once. Most were watched as a kid with my father, who when he was in college watched them in first-run primetime showings on a major network! He organized Trek viewing parties with his friends and everything. (For the record, this was not what made my father a geek. Being captain of the Chess team in high school made him a geek.) Some eps I've seen many many times. Some eps hold up remarkably well, some were incredibly cheesy. All in all, though, you gotta love Spock.

Too right you are. (says the person who's made her own IDIC symbol out of sculpey....:-P) I also only saw TOS in reruns... particularly in a marathon on UPN one Thanksgiving weekend.

The TOS-derived movies were pretty good. When I was in college, they showed a festival of the first four movies over two days on a big screen. When Star Trek: The Motion Picture was shown...I was one of only four people in the theater. One of the others was a fellow student known to his friends only as "Spock", who was infamous for occasionally showing up for class in a Superman costume. Unlike many people, I'm not just a fan of the even-numbered movies. My favorite is easily Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. As an Atheist, I get such a kick out of seeing Spock literally kill God with a photon torpedo.

I like Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. and The Voyage Home, I liked parts of The Final Frontier, although I think Roddenberry's original script would have been cooler. I liked learning more about McCoy in that one... and all the angst ...whooohooo angst...LOL

I watched the first pilot ep of TNG with my family and a load of high expectations....that "Encounter at Farpoint" just could not meet. The next few episodes were similarly disappointing, so we stopped watching a few weeks later. A couple years after that, one of my friends in High School, Jonathan Gilana, persuaded me to give it another try. Whaddaya know, first season might have sucked, but it got really good shortly after that! This was a pattern that would hold for each of the next several series: Crappy beginning, then improvement once the writers and actors got a good feel for the characters and got on with the plot.

I watched DS9's pilot, and enjoyed it immensely, much better than "Encounter at Farpoint". But, once again, aside from a few notable exceptions, the actual episodes of the first season blew chunks. And, once more, I lost interest.

I didn't really watch the first season at it's original airing..I wasn't truly a Trekkie yet... but my group of friends were discussing it in high school (along with SeaQuest, Earth2 and Sliders), and I finally had to see what the fuss was about. This show was what really got me into Star Trek, although I watched TNG as a kid with my dad, it was still just a TV show for me...but then I was hooked into the Star Trek Franchise after watching DS9.

Then, in college, a friend of mine invited me to watch that week's DS9 with him and the other members of Star Trek Club. This was an odd sort of Star Trek Club, since it was a sub-group of the Judson Baptist Fellowship. That's because the minister in charge, the Reverend Janice Hazekamp, was an odd sort of Baptist preacher: she's the only clergyperson I know personally who has actually officiated at a lesbian wedding ceremony. With some good friends to help get me caught up on the plot (which, as usual, got going just as I lost interest and stopped watching), I got back into things with a vengeance. For three years I watched every episode of DS9 (and Voyager when that started soon after I joined) with the Star Trek Club. DS9 kicked butt once its plot got going, because they stole so many good ideas from Babylon 5.

LOL

Quick plug: My long-abandoned partially-completed B5/DS9 comparison website can be found at:
www.geocities.com/bab5ds9/index.html
Enjoy.

Voyager I watched from the beginning though its third or so season. And it never rose above mediocrity. Even when it had what appeared to be a good episode, such as "The Year of Hell", it hit the freakin' reset button at the end of the episode and nothing was changed. Nothing EVER FREAKING CHANGED! They never seemed to get any closer to home, they never took any damage they couldn't easily fix...and when crewmen left or new crewmembers were picked up, it wasn't due to plot considerations, it was because Jennifer Lien decided to seitch to voice-over work in cartoons and Brannon Braga wanted to give his new girlfriend, Jeri Ryan, a job. Even when they killed off Harry Kim, the single best thing they ever did, they brought in a new and identical Harry Kim from an Alternate Universe THE SAME DARN EPISODE!

They killed Harry!? I must have totally missed this episode.... Ohh... wait, are you talking about the episode ... I think it was called, the Next Emanation, or something.... where the people from the alternate universe have their old people killed so they won't be a burden to the family? And Harry Kim does the old switcheroo to get back to his normal universe? If that's the one you're talking about... isn't it the same Harry Kim?

Ugh! And, of course, never mentioned it again. Once in a while they did something sorta cool, like the Species 8472 subplot,

Yeah. They were cool.... not just another forehead alien....

but once that miniseries worth of eps was over...nothing was changed, and nothing mattered. So Voyager sucked.

You know, I never realized how existential Voyager was...LOL

Enterprise, I was determined to give a chance. I not only watched every episode in the first season, I taped them and watched them multiple times.

Me too....LOL

In a reversal of previous Trek series, Enterprise had a great pilot, and several good episodes right off the bat. "Strange New World", "Civilization", "Fight or Flight", even "Silent Enemy" were all quite good.

I liked the episode with the space station that stole Mayweather and replaced him with a duplicate that had more screentime than he did....

And, with the "Temporal Cold War", there was even promise of a continuing overall storyline and the resultant hope that something might eventually happen that was actuallhy important.

Nope.

By bringing in Time Travel and the idea that history can be altered right off the bat, instead of introducing a bold new plot line and stories that matter, they ensured that they always had an even bigger reset button than even Voyager had ever dreamed of. Now entire multiple-episode plot lines can be reset and retroactively made to have happened at all! Nothing matters, because anything can be fixed even after it already happened! For a while there, it seemed like every third epiosde followed the same plot: We find the Enterprise several years after the other episodes that season, and one or more crewmembers are dead or horribly injured. But we find some time-travel-related way to make sure this entire timeline never happened! And everything is exactly like it used to be! This is just a rehash of the horrible mistkae that Voyager made with "The Year of Hell": Show us something important happening, then make sure it never really happened at all.

To quote Miles O'Brien, 'I hate temporal mechanics.'

And so now I no longer watch Enterprise. I catch it every now and then in the vain hope that it will improve. They seem to have decided to have more multi-episode plots than other series, but are still cursed with Brannon Braga, who can't write worth crap. So even when something big happens, it doesn't happen very coherently. What a waste of some of the best SFX in the history of TV.

I wish BB would leave... get some fresh new writers in there... They have some cool characters on the show...Phlox, Lieutenant Reed... Ambassador ...gah..whassisname....Soval, is it? And some cool new races... the Xindi, Denobulans, argh...can't think of the name of them...the guys in the pilot episode that were recieving genetic enhancments from the Futurguy. (BTW, have they found out who Futurguy is yet?)

[Lorpius Prime]

Big said:

Enterprise, I was determined to give a chance. I not only watched every episode in the first season, I taped them and watched them multiple times. In a reversal of previous Trek series, Enterprise had a great pilot, and several good episodes right off the bat. "Strange New World", "Civilization", "Fight or Flight", even "Silent Enemy" were all quite good. And, with the "Temporal Cold War", there was even promise of a continuing overall storyline and the resultant hope that something might eventually happen that was actuallhy important.

Nope.

By bringing in Time Travel and the idea that history can be altered right off the bat, instead of introducing a bold new plot line and stories that matter, they ensured that they always had an even bigger reset button than even Voyager had ever dreamed of. Now entire multiple-episode plot lines can be reset and retroactively made to have happened at all! Nothing matters, because anything can be fixed even after it already happened! For a while there, it seemed like every third epiosde followed the same plot: We find the Enterprise several years after the other episodes that season, and one or more crewmembers are dead or horribly injured. But we find some time-travel-related way to make sure this entire timeline never happened! And everything is exactly like it used to be! This is just a rehash of the horrible mistkae that Voyager made with "The Year of Hell": Show us something important happening, then make sure it never really happened at all.

And so now I no longer watch Enterprise. I catch it every now and then in the vain hope that it will improve. They seem to have decided to have more multi-episode plots than other series, but are still cursed with Brannon Braga, who can't write worth crap. So even when something big happens, it doesn't happen very coherently. What a waste of some of the best SFX in the history of TV.

Actually, for the past season, Enterprise has had one continuous plot, where changes from previous episodes stayed in and had effects later, with only one or two time-travel episodes. Unfortunately, it still sucks.

[Mlle Bienvenu]

Awww..that's too bad....I was starting to think maybe... just maybe BB had a clue....:-P

[Illyria]

TNG ;D

Although... I haven't seen much of the others...

But yeah... I love TNG, especially the characters... Data is basically what got me into the show in the first place, so he's my #1 fave But Q is a very close #2, hehe...

And yeah, I prefer "beardless" Riker as well