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Post by Big Brother on Sept 6, 2004 15:30:24 GMT -5
I know Lolua isn't even remotely finished with her monumental autobiography of Snape fanfic project, but a couple of days ago we were talking about the story and who she'd cast to play several of the various roles, and that led to her doing a GIS to illustrate who some of the more obscure actors were, and that led to this... Whaddaya think, sirs? I need someone with better art skills than myself to put the Dark Mark on his arm, but I did manage to insert a wand into Mr. Reznor's hand. At least this should get me to stop making fun of Sevvie by saying he looks like Robert Smith of The Cure. Obviously, he looks more like Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails, who is infinitely cooler than Robert Smith.
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Post by Big Brother on Sept 9, 2004 17:47:17 GMT -5
The first poster was so well recieved (wind whistles through empty forum) that I decided to make a second one. I'm not so happy with this one. I couldn't find a really good pic of Sarah Polley, Lolua's casting choice for Adriana Rookwood. So I had to use this one, which isn't great, but at least is useable as a poster. It wasn't big enough to make the "HUG SNAPE DAY" badges used in the fanfic, so instead I gave her a T-shirt. And being a 28-year-old who's never been on a date, er, someone with no art skills, I couldn't quite get the contours right to make the text on the shirt match the complex 3D topography of Sarah Polley's chest area. Methinks this will take some extensive hands-on research to really get a proper feel for the right technique in this particular area of art...EDIT BY LOLUA: You really, really didn't need to explain that.
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Post by mooncroww on Sept 9, 2004 20:48:52 GMT -5
I like them both very much. Though the first is my favorite.
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Post by Lolua on Sept 10, 2004 2:48:59 GMT -5
Thanks much, Big Bro! Boggle later? Just so y'all know, you're not actually required to do the job listed for you. Though, as I'm constantly reminded, Big Brother doesn't need an invitation to work the camera... he's always watching. Dammit, it's my fanfic... I should get to make a cool poster, too! ;D Heh. What can I say, I have a soft spot for Rosier. And Martin, please don't blow the surprise about what he loses. I know my poster's not as good as BB's contributions, but I'm working with PaperPort, so cut me a break. How I miss using my own imaging software... ::sigh:: I'm half-tempted to make one for Regulus Black. He's such an angry young man... I'm sure he'd be fun.
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Post by Big Brother on Sept 10, 2004 17:35:24 GMT -5
Well, I've started work on a Regulus Black poster, but in the meantime, here's my improved version of your Evan Rosier poster... I think this version of the tagline is punchier. Now, if only I could find a daylight pic of Hogwarts that has that gradual-fade-to-black at the edge I need to make this poster work...MSPaint can do a lot, but gradual fading from one color to another is not one of them. After Regulus Black, I'm gonna have fun with a Bellatrix one featuring Christina Ricci. And I'll try to avoid gratuitous references to her nippular areas, Lolua. Can't give you any more excuses to tread on my evil-dictator censorship territory...
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Post by Big Brother on Sept 11, 2004 3:11:40 GMT -5
Okay, last one for a while. I still plan to do Bellatrix Black-Lestrange, but after that, no more! Ah, Regulus Black. And the real shame is, he never got to play fetch with his brother...
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Sirius Black
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Notorious Mass Murderer Or Innocent Singing Sensation?
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Post by Sirius Black on Sept 12, 2004 2:02:45 GMT -5
Ah, Regulus Black. And the real shame is, he never got to play fetch with his brother... *snorts* Who'd want to play fetch with that stuck-up little brown-noser? I can't believe you wasted your time on a poster for that sad imitation of humanity. It's bad enough that the entire thing is wasted on Snivellus, of all people...
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Post by Big Brother on Sept 12, 2004 5:53:13 GMT -5
*snorts* Who'd want to play fetch with that stuck-up little brown-noser? I can't believe you wasted your time on a poster for that sad imitation of humanity. It's bad enough that the entire thing is wasted on Snivellus, of all people... Well, from what little Lolua has told me of her fanfic, you might be suprised by your brother. For instance, I'm sure you didn't know about what happened shortly before his death at the hands of the Death Eaters... S P O I L E R ...he suddenly became interested in commemorative spoon collecting! Isn't that a fascinating insight into one of the most mysterious characters in the entire Potterverse? Perhaps I should have said that "the real tradgedy is he never got a chance to complete his collection of Devon and Cornwall souvenier spoons with the neat blue cloisonne inlay".
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Post by Sirius Black on Sept 12, 2004 16:44:22 GMT -5
...he suddenly became interested in commemorative spoon collecting! Isn't that a fascinating insight into one of the most mysterious characters in the entire Potterverse? Perhaps I should have said that "the real tradgedy is he never got a chance to complete his collection of Devon and Cornwall souvenier spoons with the neat blue cloisonne inlay". Wow. How surprising. I knew he was boring, but I didn't know he was that boring. So what next, are you going to tell me he died trying to leave the Death Eaters because one of the others stole his special Falmouth spoon with the diamond-eyed falcon on the handle?
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Post by Big Brother on Sept 13, 2004 23:10:32 GMT -5
Wow. How surprising. I knew he was boring, but I didn't know he was that boring. So what next, are you going to tell me he died trying to leave the Death Eaters because one of the others stole his special Falmouth spoon with the diamond-eyed falcon on the handle? No, his leaving the Death Eaters had nothing to do with commemorative spoon collecting. S P O I L E R S He left the Death Eaters because he finally realized just how stupid that name was. I mean, "Death Eaters"? When someone invites you to, for example, "Eat Hot Death", they're not, as you might suppose, offering you a double mushroom bacon cheeseburger with chilli cheese fries on the side. Despite the cholesterol level of that oh-so-tasty meal combo, people who "eat death" don't even live long enough to get heart attacks and die in the middle of sex like decent people. People who are invited to "eat death" generally get blown away by double-barreled sawed-off shotguns. Regulus realized too late that the group he had joined was doomed to failure. People smart enough to actually conquer the world don't name themselves something as stupid and evil-sounding as "The Death Eaters". Good name for a biker gang, not a good name for the New Ruling Class. No, people who are that smart and ambitious don't even pick cool-sounding names like "The Waffen-SS" or "The People's Liberation Army" or "The Trilateral Commission". They call themselves things like "The United States Congress" and "The British Foreign Office". Regulus finally wised up and decided to quit mucking about with a bunch of dissaffected social outcasts like Snape and Bellatrix Lestrange and instead go to the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service with the ultimate aim of taking over the Muggle Government from within. Because his plan was so much more WORKABLE than Voldemort's plan of "cause general chaos and kill a bunch of the kind of people who used to make fun of me in school" (al-Qaeda is currently finding out that that sort of plan doesn't work all that well for Muggles either), good 'ol Voldewartface decided Reggie was horning in on his territory and had to be eliminated.
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Post by Severus Snape on Sept 14, 2004 4:15:57 GMT -5
It is my understanding that you may blame the Dark Lord himself for inventing the name "Death Eaters". I suppose he had those twenty-five years wandering and studying the Dark Arts before he resurfaced in which to think of a better name. One must admit, however, that he has many other talents which make his lack of creativity in naming seem rather unimportant. While the previous name for the group that, for the most part, became the Death Eaters, "The Knights of Walpurgis", was only slightly less silly, it, at least, had a logical derivation.
As for the idea of eating "Hot Death", as you so crudely put it, you should know that death, like revenge, is a dish best served cold. Both may be complimented quite well by a good vintage of nettle wine -- I can recommend an '87, particularly the late pressing of that year.
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Post by Lolua on Oct 31, 2004 4:35:01 GMT -5
People smart enough to actually conquer the world don't name themselves something as stupid and evil-sounding as "The Death Eaters". Good name for a biker gang, not a good name for the New Ruling Class. No, people who are that smart and ambitious don't even pick cool-sounding names like "The Waffen-SS" or "The People's Liberation Army" or "The Trilateral Commission". They call themselves things like "The United States Congress" and "The British Foreign Office". But the other day you agreed that the Death Eaters weren't particularly bureaucratic, and here you are comparing them to the Brit Foreign Office... make up your mind, BB. Regulus finally wised up and decided to quit mucking about with a bunch of dissaffected social outcasts like Snape and Bellatrix Lestrange and instead go to the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service with the ultimate aim of taking over the Muggle Government from within. Because his plan was so much more WORKABLE than Voldemort's plan of "cause general chaos and kill a bunch of the kind of people who used to make fun of me in school" (al-Qaeda is currently finding out that that sort of plan doesn't work all that well for Muggles either), good 'ol Voldewartface decided Reggie was horning in on his territory and had to be eliminated. LoL... great SFS humor... I'll have to pass that one along. While the previous name for the group that, for the most part, became the Death Eaters, "The Knights of Walpurgis", was only slightly less silly, it, at least, had a logical derivation. Actually, I've found a fairly decent theory about the meaning, but I found it in the most unlikely of places: a page authored by Galadriel Waters. *shudders* www.wizardingworld.com/hpsleuth/book5clues.html#deatheaterGW contends that the name "Death Eaters" may refer to vultures, eaters of carrion. Which, if their stupidity (compare Crabbe and Goyle to Nutsy and Trigger, the vulture guards in Disney's all-animal animated version of Robin Hood) and penchant for hanging around scenes of death is anything to go by, is an apt comparison. Also, think about the dark feathers and pale faces -- rather like the black robes and white masks of the DEs. However.... Jo most often uses vulture imagery for Madam Pince, the Hogwarts Librarian. Hehe, maybe I was on to something when I pegged her as a former Slytherin. ;D But in any case, there's other carrion-eating bird imagery among the DEs: Augustus Rookwood, for example. Rooks/crows/ravens in folklore (based on observation of their feeding habits) are able to smell a battlefield and its bloody banquet from miles away. A group of ravens is called a murder, and group of crows is called an unkindness. Or do I have that mixed up? And for some reason I keep thinking that vultures are strictly an American bird. Hmm, I'll look into that. But maybe I should let the resident bird-symbolism experts handle it from here. :: pointed look at Mlle and MoonCroww ::
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Post by mooncroww on Oct 31, 2004 8:37:42 GMT -5
Vultures are from all over the world and are accutally pretty cool. I don't think comparing DEs to them is quite fair. As their jaws are not strong enough to rip through flesh, not even human flesh. Thus the comparison to Madam Pince is appropriate because despite her outward signs of hostility and such she must be trustworthy or she wouldn't work at the school. (excluding DADA teachers, most of the faculity is good)
A murder of crows, an unkindness of ravens.
While I hate the stigma that crows and ravens get, it's fair I suppose to compare them to DEs cause they are very smart and pretty strong and love death. And of course you always have MacNair... lol.
Oh and vultures are far from stupid. They may look rather dopey but they aren't. And when a DE is in his "I'm off to kill muggleborns" outfit, they certainly look less that stupid, and are more likely to strike fear into the hearts of people than Nutsy and Trigger are. Also, Crabbe and Goyle are only two examples of DEs It's not very fair to group them with Lucius, who is very smart.
Oh and most vultures are from Africa and India, though in India they are nearly extinct. The African vultures are quite prolific. We do have some in the US, but they aren't nearly as big. Think "Jungle Book", there were vultures at the end there, the ones that had the funny bit like "what do you want to do tonight?"
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Post by Big Brother on Oct 31, 2004 23:00:46 GMT -5
A murder of crows, an unkindness of ravens. Yup. Oh and most vultures are from Africa and India, though in India they are nearly extinct. The African vultures are quite prolific. We do have some in the US, but they aren't nearly as big. Actually, the biggest (flying) bird in the world is an American member of the Vulture family, the California Condor. Which is nearly extinct. One running joke is the best way to find a California Condor is to look for the one very addled bird surrounded by a dozen ornithologists pestering it to death whilst trying to save it from extinction.
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Post by Big Brother on Oct 31, 2004 23:04:11 GMT -5
But the other day you agreed that the Death Eaters weren't particularly bureaucratic, and here you are comparing them to the Brit Foreign Office... make up your mind, BB. Read my bit there carefully. The Death Eaters resemble the British Foreign Office in intent (to control the world and reshape it according to their own goals), but differ greatly in both methodology (DE's do random murders, the BFO leaved that up to MI5 and the SAS) and ultimate goals (DE's want to kill and/or enslave muggles, the BFO stopped doing so when they let the colonies get their independence).
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