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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Oct 30, 2004 13:55:33 GMT -5
So, I was clicking around on another forum and there was a thread discussing the ever elusive Half-Blood Prince.  People started pointing fingers at a second possible unknown animagus (like Pettigrew): Trevor the Toad. A sane poster (read as 'non-fangurl') offered that he had been transfigured by someone else, for whatever reason, and that his constant escape attempts were not always due to Neville's poor memory. Ignoring the Half-Blood Prince, as, well ... I'm not silly enough to buy into that. Frog Princes are sooooo fairy tale  This theory interests me. What if? Hmm, indeed. Later Dayz, KiDz. |
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Post by mooncroww on Oct 30, 2004 13:59:14 GMT -5
It was his Uncle Algie that gave him the toad. They certainly don't think much of Neville's magical abilities at home so I can't see that they would give him the toad knowing it was a transfigured person and expect him to figure it out. (sorry about the run on sentence)
In that case, if it were a transfigured person it would be someone that was not intended to ever become their normal self again.
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Oct 30, 2004 14:03:37 GMT -5
*epiphany*  OR! ... What if Trevor IS an animagus and was given to Neville to protect him ... and ... and ... and ... ! *gah* Okay *deep breath* Pot your mandrakes and give me your ears for one moment. Bear with me, fellowes. Trevor and Snape are NEVER seen together, right? Clark Kent is to Superman as Snape is to Trevor? *gah* Coinkidink? I think not.  I sooooo have this figured out! EDIT: You can't really think I'm sirius .... serious* |
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Post by mooncroww on Oct 30, 2004 14:07:57 GMT -5
LOL
But really.... this probly has no standing and honestly is rather silly, but it might make a grand story if used properly.
There was a group of DE's the tortured Neville's parents. And as with young Barty Crouch, there is no need of a Dark Mark to make someone a supporter of Voldemort. The DE's were just his innermost group.
Lets say that Uncle Algie, angered by what was done to his nephew, cornered said wizard and in the midst of a fight turned them into a toad. How humiliating would that be?
Turned into a a toad and then cared for by the very child you practically orphaned.
Interesting.
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Oct 30, 2004 14:12:54 GMT -5
*quirk* Makes you wonder, donit? |
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Post by Lolua on Oct 31, 2004 2:47:05 GMT -5
So, I was clicking around on another forum and there was a thread discussing the ever elusive Half-Blood Prince. People started pointing fingers at a second possible unknown animagus (like Pettigrew): Trevor the Toad. Such discussion (on the MLO boards, I presume?) was probably sparked by this editorial on MuggleNet, posted within the last few days: Trevor the Toad by Katherine D. www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-katherined01.shtmlI'm not sure I get what's so "important" about her last piece of evidence, other than that Jo thinks "lurk" is a good verb to describe how toads behave. But there might yet be something sinister to him, as Galadriel Waters, author of The Ultimate Unofficial [And Mostly Wrong] Guide to Harry Potter, loves to point out: www.wizardingworld.com/hpsleuth/book5clues.html#trevorCute toad picture, by the way.  |
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Oct 31, 2004 4:52:37 GMT -5
Aha, hmm ... I rarely read the editorials on Mugglenet, and for good reason ... I have an Amogi that will do that for me. The conclusions that "Katherine D." came to in her editorial sound very much like the post by "Adrienne" on the other forums. I'm leaning towards the fact that Adrienne probably read said editorial and decided to suggest it on the other boards. The MLO forums have a dense population of 'Underage Wizards' that can't spell, let alone understand anything that's not punctuated with a '<333' ... "lols. v.v.v.cul! I luuuv bois, speshly englands own! speshly wit da looooooong hares!!!!! <3333333333!!!!!!!!! ^_^"   I do love Trevor the toad. I do hope he's not bad. [glow=orange,5,500]The Oracle[/glow] |
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Post by mooncroww on Oct 31, 2004 8:12:21 GMT -5
As I said last night, we are on a higher plane of learning than they are. I happen to luuuve bois as well but I can think of wittier way of saying it.... give me a minute.... well I can at least spell it better.  I love boys. There. See. Higher plane of learning. ;D Now... back to Trevor the toad..... I hate myself.  I hate having a mind that thinks in stories. As I lay in bed last night all I could think about was the half formed story I had in my head. And sadly it's formed completely almost and might very well be written when I return. Though have no fear... it shant be long and shant distract from other things I need to be working on. But who should the toad be??? Any ideas? |
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Oct 31, 2004 9:28:16 GMT -5
Seeing as Cousin has diverted the conversation to focus on a story, any story ideas should probably be transported into Longbottom's Frondescent Foliage.
Any other Trevor theories, though, are welcome. Who thinks of this stuff ... siriusly Seriously?
[glow=orange,5,500]The Oracle[/glow]
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Post by Big Brother on Nov 1, 2004 9:15:38 GMT -5
The skin of that toad matches Snape's, but the eyes are all wrong. Not nearly beady enough.
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Jan 11, 2005 11:00:34 GMT -5
I know Cousin already said that Voldyriddle's followers don't necessarily sport the oh-so-fashionable Dark Mark, but ... has anyone ever checked ol' Trevvie's left arm?
"Thanks for the toad, Uncle Algie, but what's that?" asked young Neville.
"What?" the man harumphed.
The boy pointed to the toad's left leg, at a strange marking that resembled a skull with a snake for a tongue, of all things. "That marking, there. It looks almost like a ..."
"It's impolite to point, Neville," reprimanded his grandmother sternly, thwacking the boy's hand with her own, eyes flashing at her brother.
"Obliviate!" Algie muttered, pointing his wand at the boy's head.
After a moment of silence, the boy repeated, "Oh, wow, a toad!"
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Post by Lolua on Jan 12, 2005 3:39:18 GMT -5
Does anyone know how long toads live? Because if Neville got Trevor as a "sorry I dropped you out the window, but hey, you're magical!" present from Uncle Algie at the age of 8, and Trevor's still around when Neville's almost 16... that's almost an 8-year-old toad.
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Jan 12, 2005 9:37:37 GMT -5
King Widget Agrippa (my miniature yellow-bellied slider turtle) (yes, I said turtle, but this is where my knowledge is) is expected to live upwards of 25 years.
A quick search says that the average lifespan of toads is 20 years.
So, whilst Trevor may be nearing his mid-life crisis, he has yet to enter his golden years.
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Post by Lolua on Jan 13, 2005 1:20:36 GMT -5
A quick search says that the average lifespan of toads is 20 years. So, whilst Trevor may be nearing his mid-life crisis, he has yet to enter his golden years. Ah, excellent. Longevity can't be a clue, then, as it was for the loathsome Scabbers. And Trevor can't be Snape... Snape reduces Trevor to a tadpole using Shrinking Solution in PoA, partially as retribution, methinks, for the Snape-boggart incident. |
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Post by Oracle Of Odd on Jan 13, 2005 9:31:51 GMT -5
Well, thank you, Amogi for bursting my Trevor the Potions Master bubble ... You could have told me before I posted my theory ... Oh wait ... I WAS JOKING, AMOGI ... must you ruin my fun by showing yourself smarter than me? *sniff*  Fine. Be smarter than me ... I don't mind. Remember teenysy details that I probably tripped over in my reading ... it's fine ... really. Widget and I will be over here in the dunce corner ... rereading our Prisoner of Azkaban and writing sentences. |
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People started pointing fingers at a second possible unknown animagus (like Pettigrew): Trevor the Toad.
I hate having a mind that thinks in stories. As I lay in bed last night all I could think about was the half formed story I had in my head. And sadly it's formed completely almost and might very well be written when I return. Though have no fear... it shant be long and shant distract from other things I need to be working on. 
Fine. Be smarter than me ... I don't mind. Remember teenysy details that I probably tripped over in my reading ... it's fine ... really. Widget and I will be over here in the dunce corner ... rereading our Prisoner of Azkaban and writing sentences.